I sat down with Michael Jimenez to talk about his attempt to take the foreignness of history to another level. We engage his book, Remembering Lived Lives: A Historiography from the Underside of Modernity (Cascade, Books, 2017) - and I ask him about how good history and theology does not forget to remember the past, empathetic reading, Barth's view of history, engaging history through cinema and image, and how history can be seen as resistance.