You are the God who sees, Hagar said, and the same God who saw Hagar sees us.

I sat down with Karen Gonzalez to talk about The God Who Sees: Immigrants, the Bible, and the Journey to Belong. We talk about the process of writing the book and what its like to include so much of one’s own story, We discuss how basing her story on the sacraments deepened her thinking on the practices, the complicated stories of migrants in the Bible, speaking to churches about immigration, taking action, and which Biblical story of migration needs its own Hamilton inspired rap musical! Listen in iTunes//Watch on YouTube